Oi,
I’ve started working on a SAI-Editor for TrinityCore a couple of months ago using C# with the .NET 4.5 framework (which means it’s Windows only as I’m not bothering with Mono). The application is opensource.
Download & screenshots: http://www.trinitycore.org/f/files/file/17-sai-editor/
GitHub: https://github.com/Discover-/SAI-Editor
Discover-
I’d like to check it out, but I’ll have to acquire a newer version of VS D:
If you don’t mind explaining to someone who can’t see it firsthand. what are the advantages of this project vs. what Truice / Event Horizon offer in a GUI for SAI?
may I suggest to use WPF instead of the old dead WinForms ?
I’m sorry for the VS issue, didn’t really think about it… /emoticons/default_smile.png
As for the advantages, it really is mainly a matter of preference. The main issue with Event Horizon is that it is closedsource and has not been updated for two years (and I personally really hate the design). Besides, I am planning to make this one cross-platform using Mono when it’s in a further stage of development. Another important note is that it’s opensource so it should never be able to ‘die’ or get outdated.
As for Truice, I don’t really see Truice’s SAI tab as an editor. It’s a viewer in which you can edit some values if you do research. My main goal is to make SAI available to everyone and anyone, even those without any scripting knowledge (think of auto-generated comments based on the correct codestyle, detailed information on events, actions and targets when asked for, etc. etc.).
I’ve been considering it but I personally hate the whole design pattern (not sure if that’s how I should say it) behind WPF and truly love the Windows Forms one. It’s not really worth the performance boost in my opinion compared to the ease of development (read: opinion).
Sounds great.
Updated, now compatible with both VS12 and VS10.
https://github.com/Discover-/SAI-Editor/commit/59f8383af0c4bd0500d2a588e6b0bce084c54dae
I currently don’t have an instance of VS08 so I’m not sure yet how to achieve making it compatible with that version, but there’s no hurry luckily. /emoticons/default_smile.png
EDIT: Requires http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=27759
EDIT2: Apparently you have to set the SAI-Editor project as the start-up project by hand if the solution is ran using VS12 (this is new since the compatibility update).
Very nice to see this! I’ve been searching for an EventHorizon alternative for quite a while now and finally found it.
I personally really like the layout of EventHorizon, so I’m very curious what kind of layout you had in mind for your own program. Could you maybe include one or more screenshot to show the current design? (I’m using a macintosh, so I can’t use your program yet untill it is cross-platform.)
It’s a little difficult to explain which parts I didn’t like about EventHorizon; Here’s a small video showing the current state of the application: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKq4lvU3cfM&
P.S. I broke the link forms locally while trying to make it work better, hence it’s empty.
I agree. There were a lot of pluses to EH compared to just about any other editor I used. A few that stand out:
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[li]clean interface. Not cluttered, and hardly tabular. There was never a need for scrollbars; all the data fit in the window provided.[/li][li]The list of actions was separate from the list of params, making it easier to read and navigate[/li][li]colored phasemasks, making it simple to discern between phasemasks.[/li][li]dynamic param values (not param1, param2, etc, but actual specific values like duration or map, etc)[/li][li]Very well contextualized. If you weren’t sure what a field was for, all you had to do was hover and the tooltip provided information specific to the necessary value.[/li][li]Ability to modify other related tables (like creature_text, NPC_text, and even conditions)[/li][li]Big: ability to generate SQL instead of directly modifying the DB. (with the ability to execute / save the changes directly as well)[/li][/ul]
Most of these, with the exception of the last one, are largely visual aesthetic. But if you’re going to create a GUI, it needs to be intuitive and worth its weight, otherwise you’ll get the argument that doing it by hand is the better way. Personally, the less time I have to spend scouring documentation to verify values, the better.
That said, the documentation already available on the wiki should somehow be incorporated or hard-linked from the editor. It’s a trinity editor so using trinity resources and documentation should be a given. (unless of course you already do this).
LF dynamic param fields depending on action_type. /emoticons/default_smile.png
Most of what you wrote is either already implemented or on the TODO (not everything in my head is on the TODO on github, though). /emoticons/default_smile.png
I’m bugging Subv to help me with SQLite so I can start implementing the parameter fields (which is also on the TODO afaik).
I will do it, when i finish my exams/semester, eventually, maybe.
I’ll do it.
You better. SQLite makes no sense to me.
Updated original post with some idea’s and whatnot for the future. Please post suggestions if you have any.
Implemented SQLite today because yes.
We need someone to design a nice, elegant and responsive GUI for the application, anyone wants to join in? All ideas are welcome.
So we’ve talked about this, but Discover- didn’t know about it, so maybe we should discuss it here? I told Disco that you should probably figure out how you want the elements laid out before a GUI is done (because essentially, the winforms design view is your wireframe, plus it paints a much more realistic picture of what is possible).
Subv, shoot idea’s so Guybrush can start spitting out layout idea’s already!
A video of the current state of the application:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SlBNXlVTE4&feature=youtu.be
(areatrigger form was fixed in https://github.com/Discover-/SAI-Editor/commit/41040a80856c895ed4bf00e944fab7a5b7832b86)
Small update to current state of application:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmtACcRp7nA&
Now actually functions as an editor instead of just a reader. /emoticons/default_smile.png